bicycle wine rack


For the bike-riding oenophile in your life, there can’t be a greater gift than this handmade leather wine holder. Sure, not everyone needs a special device to strap wine to their bike, but if you’re someone who enjoys wine (but not cars) and wants to bring a nice gift to a party this is a great way to do it. It’s also a great way to deal with the pesky clanking around that happens if you tote a glass bottle around in your basket- not a good idea. So if you’d like to pick up one of these leather and brass beauties for your next party-on-the-go, click here to take one home from Oopsmark on Etsy for $25. -grace

Missy

Having that thing swing back & forth and into my knees when I’m trying to pedal? No thank you. A basket, pannier, or messenger bag will do just fine.

grace

missy

if you check out the site it’s been tested and they claim it doesn’t do that…

grace

Christine

Ha, I love it! I’m always surprised by how creative people are, finding new ways of doing familiar things, like bringing wine with you on your bike. Thanks for sharing this.

matto

i wouldn’t trust that, it looks like the bottle would easily fall out. beautiful brooks saddle thou. also nice choice in bikes i have a similar western flyer.

Kris

Odd and ingenious idea! I wonder if you could get busted for open container? A backpack or sling backpack would suffice just fine for me.

Jesse

I’ve been using mine a lot and loving it. It never gets in the way and the wine bottles never come loose. The harness is clamped quite tightly to the frame so it doesn’t move. So much fun!

carmine

I agree with Ae above on the dangers of all that exposed glass in the case of an accident.

The leather looks beautiful and the idea is so chic. I think the holder would look more secure (even if it’s perfectly secure, it doesn’t visually communicate security) if the straps holding the wider end of the bottle weren’t right at the bottle’s edge. Right now it looks as though the bottle could shimmy out of the lower straps if anything shifts during the course of riding. I think the construction might inspire more trust if it were redesigned so that the encircling strap were moved up a couple inches towards the middle of the bottle, and its auxiliary strap were lengthened to create a more substantial “cup-holder”-like scenario.

If that makes sense. Hard to describe in words what would be easier to draw!

Brent

Form is fantastic, I think function could be improved if an adjustable strap connecting the two independent parts were incorporated on the bottom side to ensure that the bottle wouldn’t slip out, but I’m just an engineer.

Andi

Grace, while I usualy agree with you , I just can’t get on board with this one. It seems ridiculous. But I have to admit that I don’t live in a place where biking is a necessity (although wine is!).

Shrewd Realist

Ummm…yeah, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that this is a disaster waiting to happen.

Jesse

Good points people, but there’s more than meets the eye. When i first designed this product i had the same concerns so I redesigned it. I didn’t want to add unnecessary material to it so I came up with a clamping system to firmy hold the bike frame. It’s hidden under the leather and that’s what I like about it. The two straps are firmly secured to the frame. It would have been pretty easy to make something bulky that looked more secure, but that was not necessary…… and @Brent I’m an engineer too :)
I took a couple of videos from some people on the street here in montreal to see what they thought – decide for yourself.
http://bit.ly/kHwf5W

Dubs

C’mon Ae – when the bottle breaks in a crash, all the alcohol that spills forth will clean out the wounds caused by the broken glass!

Just kidding. :) While nicely crafted, this device doesn’t seem super safe. I still like my Hawaiian print, cushioned wine tote with strap. A backpack also works.

Kati

I LOVE this. SO perfect for Madison, WI’s summer Concert on the Squares!!! : D

Karen Bowers

this was great whimsy for me to share with my triathlon team. there’s a big race this weekend, and people are in need of reason to smile what with all the pre-race nerves.

Another skeptic

The video you provided Jesse does not show any one actually riding the bike with the wine bottle attached, only standing next to it. There are also some fundamental flaws to the design based on the material used. Leather strapping is a material that will expand and gain flexibility in its lifetime. This will cause the rear strap to have a larger and larger range or motion relative to the attachment point on the bike and the bottle to have a larger range of motion within the strap. Perhaps at optimal starting conditions a bottle will not slip out when riding on a bumpy road, but after years of use it becomes quite possible. These issues could easily be fixed, but first you need to accept that they are issues.

not sure

so this product is just for men? not only that it looks like it would fall right out. hmm. cute idea though, looks perdy in the picture.

Jesse

As luck would have it, i got a flat before doing the video so couldn’t drive with it. In terms on the limitations of leather – That’s why I didn’t want to attach the front part to the rear part. Having them seperate allows the user to relocate the two pieces to accommodate for changes in material.
I’ve been working with leather for over ten years and have made over ten thousand accessories, by hand. I’m well away of the limitations of leather but thanks for the skooling ;)

Jesse

An interesting property of vegetable tan leather is that when it gets wet and dries in the sun it shrinks! So, it’s not like the whole will just keep getting bigger.
I love all these critical thinkers pointing out some of the design challenges I had to overcome to make this product work. Thanks for taking such an interest in the design.

Esther

This would be really cool if it worked for both men’s and women’s bikes. A woman’s bike does not have a bar straight across on which you could attach this.

grace

esther

i wish more cute things worked on women’s bikes. i think it’s why most of the women i know don’t ride the traditional “woman’s” shaped bikes anymore ;) though i do and always lament that things don’t fit on mine.

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Peg

VERY cool idea for a gift! I have passed this onto the cycling community in my city – good to spread the word! Congratulations.

Ash

This is an anxiety attack waiting to happen for me. I’d be too worried that it would fall out to ride!

ryna

So cute. It looks like as long as the two parts are close enough together then it would be fine. I want mine.

desi

this is so cool! all i need to go on a picnic or a ride :D! ,i jus posted a link on my site,i think is late to ask Easter bunny for things, and xmas is a long way! :'(

R.Shelly

I like this idea. I am a woman and I have a bike with a bar across it. The funny thing is that it is a Masi bike and this is a Masi wine….I wonder if there are any connections….

Sean Gordon

This design is terrible. Anyone would see within 5 minutes of actual testing that the bottle will:

A. hit your knees as you pedal

B. swing back and forth, making A worse, and

C. fall out and break on the ground.

Put that in your backpack or pannier. There’s a reason you don’t see bicycle accessories attached to the top tube, it strikes your knees.

There are other places a wine bottle could be attached to a bike, for example, to the downtube in lieu or in conjunction with a traditional water bottle holder.

Or, if you’re trying to be really quaint and traditional, look at old fashioned handlebar mounted bottle holders (complete with aluminum bottles with corks).

Don’t support design that is impractical, unimaginative, and uninformed.

– Sean Gordon, Industrial Designer

grace

sean

i understand and welcome your feedback as a designer, and i think you have some valid points here. however, i think that it’s important to see something in action before claiming that something definitely “will” do a list of things, as you’ve listed here. have you seen and tried this in person? if not, i have a feeling those claims may not be quite as iron clad as you’re making them sound.

i’ve suggested that the designer work on a film of this piece in action so people can see how it works. i’d be delighted to update this when he does. if not, i’m sure the speculation will continue, however i hope people will keep in mind that unless you see and try something you don’t know exactly what it will or won’t do.

grace

Jesse Herbert

Sean Gordan……

All I can say is that you’re wrong on all fronts. I design things to work.

Here’s a video of what some people around montreal think about. http://bit.ly/kHwf5W

I’ll be making another video this week to demo it further so stay posted.

Jesse Herbert –
Mechanical Engineer,
Industrial Designer,
Leather artist :)

Sean Gordon

Nope, sorry. This is just another one liner “artisanal” product.

Its interesting to hear that “the bottle can not come out of the nice design thing” from a random person on the street. She was not shown riding the bike. It’s more interesting, however, to see the second interviewee jostle the bottle, demonstrating the slack, non-structural characteristics of your product.

It doesn’t take into account the bicycle or the rider. The top tube has the smallest diameter of the main frame tubes. Its certainly not the least stressed; this is done for leg clearance. Many people would have to ride bow-legged to use this product; not to mention the protruding hardware. You would be hard-pressed to find any bicycle accessory or part that interferes in this way.

I see in your photograph that you have also conveniently removed the sturmey-archer shift cable, which would be blocked by your product. I’m sure the user would love to show up to the picnic bow legged and exhausted from being forced to ride his Raleigh 3spd the entire way in its highest gear.

Not to mention that it would be in the way of the exposed run of rear brake cable on many bicycles. Brakes are important.

It doesn’t reference anything in the rich and elegant history of the bicycle. Road bicycles from the turn of the century up to the 1950’s had handlebar mounted bottle cages; many were beautifully fabricated from lightweight steel rod and tubing. This could be translated to leather.

The reference to the Brooks saddle is only superficial. The saddle is leather, and so are your straps. You could have moulded the leather into a nice shape to hold the bottle, rather than riveting straps together. Even something so simple as chamfering, etching, or using laces to secure the bottle would have sufficed (conceptually and visually).

News flash: Brooks saddles have bag loops precisely for this kind of accessory. This is a missed opportunity. Saddlebags, tool bags, rain ponchos, and spare tubular tires have been attached to these loops; many of them designed specifically for Brooks saddles, for a century. Why? Because that is a reasonable place for storage: behind and out of the way of the rider.

As to whether or not I can judge a product by looking at it… well that is the job of a designer. You need to evaluate whether a possible solution to a design problem is worth development early on, at least on the level of identifying obvious pitfalls. Unfortunately this discretion has not been demonstrated here.

Jesse Herbert

Sean.
Maybe you’re right, why don’t you stop my montreal, we can have a beer and talk it over.
Jesse

Jeremy

Ok seriously! All you safety conscious complainers go get some bubble wrap and wrap yourself and your whole life with it. This is an idea that obviously serves a purpose to anyone who actually gets a little enjoyment from life. While deffinately not necessary, neither are the air conditioned seats of your SUV. Looks great too, nice design. I’m sure the bottle is secure.

John

Can it be mounted on the Seat or Down Tube or just the Top Tube?

Craig Hondo

It seems there are two concerns from everyone reading this: first, they need a way to carry their wine around on their bicycle (a noble cause); second, they need to make sure that the wine bottle won’t break or otherwise encumber their riding (a noteworthy concern).

Perhaps both problems could be solved by using the front basket also attached to the bike.

Luther Blissett

Hi Jesse, hi bike and design nuts,
It’s nice to see the designer of that item getting involved in the discussion. I have to admit that I go with the people having safety concerns here. While I’d say that in case of a crash there is probably only little difference between the bottle being exposed and you being possibly slashed by glass shards or the bottle being inside a back pack or messenger bag and you being possibly pierced by glass shards (although the latter seems to be slightly less probable to me) I’d have something to add to the concerns already mentioned.
1. Wear and tear. You yourself mention that the part holding the bottom of the bottle might be a little tight upon first use thus implying the material will give way over time. Hopefully not too much. What about the strap holding the bottle neck? Will the knob be sitting nice and firm in the strap after it has been used for some time? I also was wondering whether the leather would not get polished and thus made slippery by use, but your installation video shows that the leather is not directly touching the top tube. So I’m almost ready to believe that the two parts are kept from traveling apart. However a thin brass bar connecting the two knobs probably will not completely spoil the design but will completely keep the two parts together.
2. What about continuous vibration? Won’t the bottle get rattled out of the holder? Your action video doesn’t show you actually riding across the bumpy lawn. That’s exactly what I’m wondering about. Ride across bumpy ground like lawn for long enough and the bottle will start swinging and eventually drop, won’t it? Especially when the two leather parts can move independently because they are not held together firmly by say a thin brass bar ;-) (or a leather strap that is running almost invisibly along the under side of the bottle).
I also have to admit I somehow find the idea and design appealing – there’s a hipster in everyone of us, I guess ;-) , but the current design looks like a bomb dropper rather than a reliable holder to me…
The comments here and elsewhere show that you already have succeeded in one thing – creating a design that strikes emotion – which is far more than many others can claim for themselves ;-). I would suggest making it look a little less intimidating by adding just a little something that holds both parts together.
Just my 2 ct.

Blair

I will be buying one, actually met some dudes in montreal who sell these, trust me this idea works. who cares if you can put a wine bottle in your backpack or handle bar basket. It’s something new and creative, and it looks cool so who cares.

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